Personhood Bill and IVF

If you have done IVF, are going to do IVF, or feel that IVF should be a tool that people should have access to to build their families with, then you should be against a Personhood Bill whether you are for or against abortion. Hell, if you enjoy or enjoyed an IUD or think others should be able to have an IUD, you should be against a Personhood Bill. You want to freeze those embryos and do PGD testing? Against.You don’t want to make miscarriages more emotionally difficult. Against. You know that it is none of your damn business how someone goes about building their family or birth control preferences but know that they need support. Against.

Did you know that a Personhood Bill has been introduced in the House of Representatives? You may have missed it because, holy shit balls, there is too much going on! Plus some of us can only stomach the news in small doses these days.

Get on it and write your representatives. Get angry. Get angrier. Then go meditate. Stress is not good for those undergoing fertility treatments.

Article about it:https://www.romper.com/p/how-would-the-personhood-bill-affect-ivf-it-hurts-couples-relying-on-medical-intervention-32739

Resolve’s canned letter you can send to your Rep.(well, you fill out some info. and they send it to your rep for you!): https://secure2.convio.net/res/site/Advocacy?cmd=display&page=UserAction&id=656

Another thing we can all start doing is talking more about our infertility and the IVF journey. Not just amongst ourselves. I know it is uncomfortable, but we have to speak up for our rights. There is nothing shameful about infertility. There is nothing indecent about IVF. Let us educate our friends and families so they can help advocate for us. So they can educate their friends and their families.

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Some more food for thought. Yesterday a friend that works for a midwife posted this on my FB comment on this topic.

Personhood bills are awful on so many fronts! In addition to what they do to abortion rights and with regards to IVF, they have also been invoked in states that have those sorts of laws on the books to allow OCS to take the newborns away from women who make decisions regarding their deliveries that are different than what doctors want for them. We learned at an AABC conference about a case in Texas where a laboring woman wouldn’t sign an “informed consent” form for a C-section immediately upon arrival to the hospital, and the hospital got the authorities to take away her custody after the birth (based partly also on finding a history of depression noted in her records and trumping that up). They have also been used against women planning homebirth if a particular doctor thinks they shouldn’t. So basically, taking rights away from women in ANY and ALL potential reproductive situations from trying to get pregnant all the way to how they deliver. It’s sickening. It makes me blind-rage-stabby.”

Second, take the time to read this post from a very brave woman that has struggled with infertility and had to have medically necessary abortion to save her life. Let’s not make this difficult time even more difficult for women.

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14 thoughts on “Personhood Bill and IVF

  1. This has put me into a fucking tailspin to read. I can’t comprehend how Roe v Wade would not make this completely illegal to do, but shit is hitting the fan every single day since 1/20. Of course, with one (and possibly two) more SCOTUS justices up for nomination during the next 4 years, our rights to our own bodies are in jeopardy.

    I’ve been watching The Man in the High Castle on Amazon – have you seen it? It’s about what the world might have looked like had Germany and Japan won WWII and the two countries split up the US into two territories. It’s nauseating and when the election happened, became a reality show in many ways. Trump is aspiring to Hitler, and so many Americans are in denial just as the world was about Hitler.

    BTW it’s a trip as I was drafting a post that talked about how “pro-life” (i.e., “anti-women”) people claim abortion is wrong for those “personhood” reasons…yet still go through IVF…I wonder how this might change their tune.

    This is why getting the Equal Rights Amendment fully ratified is so incredibly vital. We as women have never been protected by the Constitution for more than two centuries, it’s repulsive to me that it’s been introduced every year and still gets blown off.

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    1. Not sure I can stomach that show right now but it sounds intriguing. Scary but intriguing. I lived outside of Berlin in high school for a year with a host family. It was really eye opening to live in Eastern Germany (post-unification) and to know people that lived there.

      The ERA gets blown off because it is about women. We are constantly blown off.

      Here is some more on Personhood laws: https://rewire.news/legislative-tracker/law-topic/personhood/ Scary shit. I wish I had more information on them before but glad I’m becoming move vocal. I have a student that didn’t think she was going to vote in the election and who “wasn’t into politics”, BUT she showed up for the March. It is nice to seeing those that think it doesn’t matter realize that it does.

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      1. Yeah the show was great – last year. But now in season 2 with all that the world is now? Ugh. Bigotry has been legitimized at the highest levels. Ironically it makes me wonder about bringing kids into this world.

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        1. I went to a Postcard Party this weekend and someone else brought up that TV show. Yeah, after he described it, I don’t think I could handle it now. As for bringing kids into this world – we need more kids raised by loving, compassionate, and educated people. I think you need to arrange 10 somehow. :/

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    1. Inferitlityhonest posted after the election about how Infertility had prepared her for this. Number six hits the problem on the head. We do not exist.

      Number 6 warrants an intro. Though my country has more pressing woes at the moment, woes that I’m willing to take action on behalf of, those of us who wanted children but couldn’t have them just got through a campaign drenched, as usual, in the presumption of parenthood. Months of “our sons and daughters” bombardments (complete with a campaign flier in my mailbox emblazoned with the heading “would you want your daughter drinking this water?” The answer is I and those like me wanted our daughters to fucking exist first and foremost, seems they skipped a few steps), candidates sitting their parenthood and grandparenthood as some sort of a qualification to properly govern (dream on, assholes) capped off by Obama thanking, and I quote, “the Moms and Dads” who helped with Clinton’s campaign (while “the Moms and Dads” who campaigned for Trump were, notably, not mentioned). And what in the Sam Hill does one’s parental status have to do with one’s campaigning efforts anyway?? Like every other political race before, this one continued to exclude from the conversation the twenty percent of our population in this country over the age of 45 who do not parent while incessantly inferring that those with children have a greater stake and thus care more about the future of this country. Politics aside, voting for the candidate that would set an appropriate example for the young people in this country was one of the top 3 motivations that got ME, me infertilityhonesty, out to the polls. So, without further adieu, I leave you with number 6.

      6) Concerns about my factions of folks in this country (people dealing with infertility and child free not by choicers) being more excluded and socially disenfranchised while being less seen and heard? Uh, nope. No worries there. The masses have already got that down. Even Trump at the helm can’t take that one any lower. I’d like to say we are marginalized, but I believe a group/life experience has to be societally acknowledged and actually INCLUDED in the human conversation before graduating to marginalization.

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      1. Very articulately stated. We are probably going to agree to disagree on a lot of things re: politics. However,
        I am not a fan of the Republican Party right now. I see Trump as an Independent, not a RepublicAn. I do not like his VP pick because I know he is very conservative and that would turn of Independents. I have issues with the RepublicAn Party. During their convention, when they were revising their platform the wording was something to the effect of “children birthed naturally by the family.” They were trying to indirectly be against gay people having children. However, in execution, it was written like adopted or fostered children were excluded from their platform. It triggered me when I read it in July. I think I room a screen shot- I’ll have to dig it up. I, too,
        loath the assumption of parenthood. And yes, “I, too, want my kids to exist”
        on planet earth in the first place. The RepublicAns are just so clueless when it comes to infertility. I don’t think Trump is leading the charge when it comes to women’s rights – he’s outlined women’s initiatives in his Tuesday speech – Its the congressional Republicans in Red States. It doesn’t surprise me that Pence is so behind this bill but he’s VP. You are spot on about your description of marginalization. It’s like the Republican Party, like most people I come across, are in denial that infertility and miscarriages and losses exist. They are clueless.

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        1. Typo- . “I don’t think Trump is leading the charge to *take away* women’s rights – he’s outlined women’s initiatives in his Tuesday speech and his daughter Ivanka is an outspoken advocate – Its the congressional Republicans in Red States. Also, I just realized it was a link to infertilityhonestly’s page. I will check it out.

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        2. The irony is that Donald Trump changed political parties multiple times – he was a Democrat for quite a while and even supported Hillary Clinton’s senate campaign. And will agree, Mike Pence is a fucking demon, in every way not just with women – he’s the one who thinks gay people are to be ‘reformed’. Ugh.

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      2. It really has nothing to do with political parties. It is the fact that no one is talking about infertility. We are not even marginalized because we do not exist. Remember when Zuckerberg openly talked about their miscarriage? We need that. We need people from all walks of life to talk about infertility in public and openly. That was the take home of her statement. We are not included in any of the conversations – red or blue because to them, we do not exist. I know I thought very little about infertility, how policies effected infertility and treatments, lack of insurance coverage until I was facing it. By us talking about it, it makes people aware so when they are designing policies whether, at the federal, state, or even private level, our situation can be considered. I have had several friends write to their congressman about the Personhood Bill because I shared my story of infertility. They didn’t know I was doing fertility treatments or what it all entails. We now have more voices at the table so even when everyone in the room has never faced infertility, someone will say “how will this effect those facing infertility?”

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